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Phidias. Updated 21 Sep 2026.
| Rule | Eval | Funded | Live |
|---|---|---|---|
| Platforms | NinjaTrader · Tradovate · TradingView · Quantower · Rithmic | NinjaTrader · Tradovate · TradingView · Quantower · Rithmic | Rithmic + Tradovate stack. Front-ends commonly NT, Quantower, TradingView, ATAS, Sierra. Confirm Phidias checkout. |
| Price | Typical checkout often under list. List class ~$145. Confirm Phidias. | Typical checkout often under list. List class ~$145. Confirm Phidias. | Confirm live / funded checkout. Prices move. |
| Drawdown | Static. Does not trail. | Static. Does not trail. | Confirm live contract |
| DLL | None | None | Confirm live contract |
| Consistency | None on E2L eval | None on E2L | Often dropped on live. UNCLEAR. |
| News | Allowed, no window | Allowed, no window | Confirm live desk rules |
| Overnight | Not on E2L. | Not on E2L. | Usually flat unless a swing/live product |
| Microscalp | No seconds rule published | No seconds rule published | Confirm live desk rules |
| Algos / bots | Semi-auto and copiers cited as allowed. Confirm. | Semi-auto and copiers cited as allowed. Confirm. | Live desk policy. Confirm. |
| First payout | Pass the eval first | No minimum trading days | Usually after sim payouts or a review |
| Cap / ladder | n/a until funded | Min $500. Live-credit path, not a classic ladder. | Often different from sim funded. |
| Split | n/a until funded | 80/20 | Confirm live contract |
| Billing | One-time eval. | One-time eval. | Confirm live contract |
| Activation | Comparison tables disagree ($0 vs a PA fee). UNCLEAR — confirm Phidias checkout. | Comparison tables disagree ($0 vs a PA fee). UNCLEAR — confirm Phidias checkout. | Confirm live contract |
| Path to live | n/a until funded | Built to switch to live after payouts / credits. | Already the live stage. |